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John Fire Lame Deer
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“A medicine man shouldn't be a saint. He should experience and feel all the ups and downs, the despair and joy, the magic and the reality, the courage and the fear, of his people. He should be able to sink as low as a bug, or soar as high as an eagle. Unless he can experience both, he is no good as a medicine man.”
John Fire Lame Deer (1903–1976) said by 1976 at the latest wikiquote, CC BY-SA 4.0 source
“Sickness, jail, poverty, getting drunk—I had to experience all that myself. Sinning makes the world go round. You can't be so stuck up, so inhuman that you want to be pure, your soul wrapped up in a plastic bag, all the time. You have to be God and the devil, both of them. Being a good medicine man means being right in the midst of the turmoil, not shielding yourself from it. It means experiencing life in all its phases. It means not being afraid of cutting up and playing the fool now and then. That's sacred too.”
John Fire Lame Deer (1903–1976) said by 1976 at the latest wikiquote, CC BY-SA 4.0 source
“We believe all religions are really the same—all part of the Great Spirit. The trouble is not with Christianity, with religion, but with what you have made out of it. You have turned it upside down. You have made the religion of the protest leader and hippie Jesus into the religion of missionaries, army padres, Bureau of Indian Affairs officials. These are two altogether different religions, my friend. . . . Many of us Sioux go to a church on Sunday, to a peyote meeting on Saturday, and to a man any day when we feel sick.”
John Fire Lame Deer (1903–1976) said by 1976 at the latest wikiquote, CC BY-SA 4.0 source
Recorded in: pages 216-217. As quoted in Holloway, B. (2020). Interpreting the Legacy: John Neihardt and Black Elk Speaks. Boulder: University Press of Colorado. https://muse.jhu.edu/book/77127
“Before our white brothers came to civilize us we had no jails. Therefore we had no criminals. You can't have criminals without a jail. We had no locks or keys, and so we had no thieves. If a man was so poor that he had no horse, tipi or blanket, someone gave him these things. We were too uncivilized to set much value on personal belongings. We wanted to have things only in order to give them away. We had no money, and therefore a man's worth couldn't be measured by it. We had no written law, no attorneys or politicians, therefore we couldn't cheat. We really were in a bad way before the white men came, and I don't know how we managed to get along without these basic things which, we are told, are absolutely necessary to make a civilized society.”
John Fire Lame Deer (1903–1976) said by 1976 at the latest wikiquote, CC BY-SA 4.0 source
“What does this Mount Rushmore mean to us Indians? It means that these big white faces are telling us, "First we gave you Indians a treaty that you could keep these Black Hills forever, as long as the sun would shine, in exchange for all of the Dakotas, Wyoming and Montana. Then we found the gold and took this last piece of land, because we were stronger. ... And because we like the tourist dollars, too, we have made your sacred Black Hills into one vast Disneyland. And after we did all this we carved up this mountain, the dwelling place of your spirits, and put our four gleaming white faces here. We are the conquerors.”
John Fire Lame Deer (1903–1976) said by 1976 at the latest wikiquote, CC BY-SA 4.0 source